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Zoom Bug in IE7

Last week I wrote in Bug in IE7? that I thought there was a problem viewing this site:

In Firefox and IE6, my horizontal list (menu) works correctly. The picture below shows the “Link Blog” item highlighted and mouse-over.

Looks good

In IE7, all of the text is crowded together, but the mouse-over regions are in the correct place. Again, the picture below shows in the “Link Blog” item highlighted. Noticed that the highlight is in the same place, but the text is all crowded to the left.

Looks bad

This alone looks like a bug. I don’t see how the text and the highlight can be in two different locations.

It turns out that this is related to the zoom feature.  This site looks fine if zoom isn’t used (i.e., at 100%).  More or less zoom crowds just the text, but not the mouse-overs.

Must be a bug.

 

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Bug in IE7?

Before I report this as a bug, I thought I’d write it up and see if any CSS gurus can help me.

In Firefox and IE6, my horizontal list (menu) works correctly. The picture below shows the “Link Blog” item highlighted and mouse-over.

Looks good

In IE7, all of the text is crowded together, but the mouse-over regions are in the correct place. Again, the picture below shows in the “Link Blog” item highlighted. Noticed that the highlight is in the same place, but the text is all crowded to the left.

Looks bad

This alone looks like a bug. I don’t see how the text and the highlight can be in two different locations.

I have run this through the CSS Validator (here) and the XHTML Validator (here) and sounds nothing I can pin this on. (Note the XHTML Validator reports several errors having to do with individual posts).

So, is this a problem in my site or a bug in IE7?

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IE7 to release today?

There seems to be much interest in the release — I’m getting a lot of people coming to this blog for the answer.

I don’t know if it is true; but, the rumor has it that today, October 18th, is the day.

Update: and it looks like the rumors were correct.

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No side-by-side for IE7 and IE6

IE7 is coming out very soon (some say any day). One thing to be aware of: if you need to keep using IE6, don’t install IE7. This isn’t just an issue in the IE7 installer (i.e., IE7 upgrades IE6), but they cannot both be installed on the same machine.

I trust (and Microsoft really hopes) that this doesn’t affect users in a negative way.

My guess is that the only people who really care about the side-by-side issue are developers. Of course, IT managers will care too, but they can keep IE7 from being auto-updated.

My guess is that this due to COM (because IE programmability is all through COM).

Side-by-side COM is anywhere from hard to impossible. One more benefit for a browser built on managed.

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Replace IE7 with Firefox?

Kevin Burton suggests that the Vista IE7 delay can be eliminated by tossing IE7 and adopting Firefox. I would be surprised if IE7 is on the Vista critical path, but the idea of Microsoft replacing IE7 made me laugh.

At first, I thought he was kidding, but he is serious (see the discussion between Robert Scoble and Kevin in the comments for that post). Fundamentally, Kevin’s idea is an interesting one, but that ship sailed a long time ago. Too many developers have products that rely on IE (e.g., NewsGator uses the IE browser control) with large installed user bases. Microsoft cannot just leave those developers and users in the lurch without a migration path.

Kevin suggests that since Firefox is a whole new application, that existing applications wouldn’t break. Good point, but remember, IE6 is considered a security problem. Abandoning IE7 doesn’t solve the IE6 problem for Microsoft.

They own the problem by winning the first Browser Wars and then letting IE stagnate.

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